{"id":1395,"date":"2026-04-14T14:03:20","date_gmt":"2026-04-14T14:03:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/?p=1395"},"modified":"2026-04-14T14:03:20","modified_gmt":"2026-04-14T14:03:20","slug":"04-14-26-the-lacatski-effect-spies-saucers-and-secrets-of-the-dias-uap-program","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/2026\/04\/14\/04-14-26-the-lacatski-effect-spies-saucers-and-secrets-of-the-dias-uap-program\/","title":{"rendered":"04.14.26. The Lacatski Effect: Spies, Saucers, and Secrets of the DIA\u2019s UAP Program"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1317\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1395-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/pscrb.fm\/rss\/p\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/traffic.libsyn.com\/gralienreport\/The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/pscrb.fm\/rss\/p\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/traffic.libsyn.com\/gralienreport\/The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3\">https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/pscrb.fm\/rss\/p\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/traffic.libsyn.com\/gralienreport\/The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/pscrb.fm\/rss\/p\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/traffic.libsyn.com\/gralienreport\/The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=1395-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/pscrb.fm\/rss\/p\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/traffic.libsyn.com\/gralienreport\/The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"The_Lacatski_Effect_-_Spies_Saucers_and_Secrets_of_the_DIAs_UAP_Program__MHP_041426.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/subscribe\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p><p>If all records and information related to UFOs that the U.S. government currently withholds were to be released, what would it disclose about the phenomenon? Would the undeniable reality of unidentified anomalous phenomena finally be laid bare, or would it only foment new questions about what aerial mysteries? And what might we learn from the findings of past efforts, such as the Defense Intelligence Agency&#8217;s (DIA) Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program (AAWSAP)?<\/p>\n<p>This week on\u00a0<em>The Micah Hanks Program<\/em>, we analyze the ongoing riddle of the DIA&#8217;s AAWSAP program and its enigmatic former director, Dr. James Lacatski, whose recent statements have raised new questions about &#8220;disclosure,&#8221; as well as information leaks and espionage efforts that may have been underway during the secretive Pentagon UAP investigation.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Want to advertise\/sponsor\u00a0<em>The Micah Hanks Program<\/em>?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>We have partnered with the <b>AdvertiseCast <\/b>to handle our advertising\/sponsorship requests. 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