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On the Trail of the Skinwalker: Colm Kelleher Ph.D. on the AAWSAP Investigations"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4408\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-851-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/gralienreport\/On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/gralienreport\/On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3\">https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/gralienreport\/On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/gralienreport\/On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=851-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/gralienreport\/On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"On_the_Trail_of_the_Skinwalker_-_Colm_Kelleher_Ph.D._on_the_AAWSAP_Investigations__MHP_052323.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/subscribe\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p><p>Between 2008 and 2010, what is arguably one of the most atypical government investigations into the unexplained was carried out by employees with Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) out of Las Vegas, Nevada, as part of a Defense Intelligence Agency effort known as the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program, or AAWSAP.<\/p>\n<p>This week on\u00a0<em>The Micah Hanks Program<\/em>, we examine the controversial DIA program with Colm Kelleher, Ph.D., a biochemist who between 1996-2004 led the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) team on Skinwalker Ranch, and in 2008 became deputy administrator of BAASS where he led the day-to-day operations in executing the AAWSAP contract with Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Kelleher shares his reflections about the program, what it discovered, and how it applies to the ongoing efforts by the Pentagon to evaluate unidentified anomalous phenomena.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The story doesn&#8217;t end here&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/x\">become an X Subscriber<\/a> and get access to even more weekly content and monthly specials.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3><strong>Want to advertise\/sponsor <em>The Micah Hanks Program<\/em>?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>We have partnered with the fine folks at <strong><em>Gumball<\/em><\/strong> to handle our advertising\/sponsorship requests. 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Boom, shaking reported across the Lowcountry<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.discovermagazine.com\/technology\/new-evidence-suggests-apollo-11s-lunar-ascent-module-could-still-be-orbiting\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Apollo 11\u2019s Eagle Might Still Be Orbiting Around The Moon<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thedebrief.org\/details-on-mysterious-object-that-followed-chinas-spaceplane-revealed-in-recent-space-threat-assessment\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Details on Mysterious Object That Followed China\u2019s Spaceplane Revealed in Space Threat Assessment<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thedebrief.org\/13-of-academics-who-responded-to-uap-survey-suspect-devices-of-unknown-intelligence\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">13% of Academics Who Responded to UAP Survey Suspect &#8220;Devices of Unknown Intelligence&#8221;<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/uapjames\/status\/1659299977762308098?s=46&amp;t=1sVRVSTivCVzUxQNepC3lg\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Garry Nolan on ET intelligence<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thedebrief.org\/garry-nolan-a-stanford-professors-quest-to-resolve-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Garry Nolan: A Stanford Professor&#8217;s Quest to Resolve Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><b>COLM KELLEHER:<\/b> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/hunt-skinwalker\/s?k=hunt+for+the+skinwalker\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hunt for the Skinwalker (Amazon)\u00a0<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Skinwalkers-Pentagon-Insiders-Account-Government\/dp\/B09HR54GQF\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Skinwalkers at the Pentagon (Amazon)<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bigelowinstitute.org\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong style=\"font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/x\">BECOME AN X SUBSCRIBER AND GET EVEN MORE GREAT PODCASTS AND MONTHLY SPECIALS FROM MICAH HANKS.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"ezAdsense adsense adsense-midtext\">Sign up today and get access to the entire back catalog of<strong>\u00a0The Micah Hanks Program,\u00a0<\/strong>as well as \u201cclassic\u201d episodes of\u00a0<em>The Gralien Report Podcast,<\/em>\u00a0weekly \u201cadditional editions\u201d of the subscriber-only\u00a0<em><strong>X Podcast,<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0the monthly\u00a0<strong>Enigmas\u00a0<\/strong>specials, and much more.<\/div>\n<p>Like us on\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MicahHanksOfficial\/?view_public_for=101037011668657\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Follow\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/MicahHanks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">@MicahHanks<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>on Twitter<\/p>\n<p>Keep up with Micah and his work at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.micahhanks.com\">micahhanks.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are joined by Colm Kelleher, Ph.D., a biochemist who in 2008 became deputy administrator of BAASS where he led the day-to-day operations of the DIA&#8217;s AAWSAP program at the infamous Skinwalker Ranch. <span class=\"more-link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/micahhanks.com\/podcast\/2023\/05\/23\/05-23-23-on-the-trail-of-the-skinwalker-colm-kelleher-ph-d-on-the-aawsap-investigations\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":852,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[249,970,313,971,973,972,969,241,10,809],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>05.23.23. 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